Fred en Ries

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Did you hear? Fred van Leer and Richard Groenendijk are making a podcast where they don't clean, but chat. At Richard's kitchen table, they are presented with a dilemma every week by friend of the show: Jopie Parlevliet. Nothing remains undiscussed: from friendship and infidelity to depression and alcohol. And all of that, of course, with a Rotterdam touch.